[Avalon]

As many will know the anguish Matt and I have been through in the last month, well Phoenix is having major issues again another 2 vet visits 2 course of meds both cavulux and vibravet, which were only for 10 & 5 days, she is having issues breathing yet again. I have tried everything its breaking my heart. we have also tried Zithromax, bisolvin and she gets regular lysine in her diet and powder form. Just dont know what to ask the vets, is there other meds we can try. Her nasal passage is so small which is probably actually more than likely hampering the issues and we have spoken to a specialist who is going to open the nasal passages up in the new year but until then I just dont know. Has anyone else had these issues with their smooshy face furkids. I thought of herbal stuff but dont know much about it!
Cherie

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[jemappelle]

I have had a lot of Persians over the years and never had any problems with them breathing. Has she had herpes virus? If so she may have scarring in her nasal passages or is the restriction in her throat?

[Heather Sharada]

Also speak to a Homoeopath.....you have tried all the orthodox route - try something else.

[Avalon]

I have had a lot of Persians over the years and never had any problems with them breathing. Has she had herpes virus? If so she may have scarring in her nasal passages or is the restriction in her throat?

Yes she did as a wee bub, we rescued her at 4.2 mths, I have finally got some action from the vets seeing as I hve had 6 visits in the last 3 weeks my bank balance is zilch at the moment LOL nothing unusual, and the meds they gave us a week ago were useless so we are back on the cavulux and I will be gong down an alternative route, she is having her nasal passages opened with laser surgery but I do believe their is scaring not sure if in the nose or its in her throat you just feel useless, the bisolvin worked well again last night and I hve given her more today and pick up the 3 week course today and when we get our new bub next week or the one after we will all be going back to speak hopefully to our fav vet Chris fingers crossed he is back then

Heather with the Homeopathy, would one just search or would there be a place that does it for animals or just humans and contact them?? also my vet mentioned seeing a feline specialist which is going to cost me $400 consultation

[jemappelle]

There is a good chance it is scarring that is making it difficult for her to breath so no amount of medication is going to fix that or does she have a discharge. Have you tried a vaporiser?

Also wanted to say that herpes virus is for life and she will shed the virus and have symptoms at times of stress.

[Winscar]

Cherie have a look at the HAMPL website. Quite a few CWers use them for different things. Charleycat has had great success with sweet Lucy dealy with an issues she has.

I have them in my mind for that "just in case" .....

[Lara]

Have you had a chance to look at the HAMPL site? I gave the link in the other thread you posted, but just in case, here it is again. The products are very reasonably priced, last ages and they can't do any harm. In Willow they make a huge difference and she responds almost straight away. They will send you the bottle in the mail. Definitely worth a try!!

http://www.holistica...ose-issues.html

This post has been edited by Lara: 10 November 2009 - 09:45 AM

[bentley7]

Mega & Big s for Beautiful Phoenix, Yourself & Matt

John

[aboutTaya]

from here too! It is just awful when we can't seem to make our little ones better. Does it help at all taking her into the bathroom with you when you have a hot steamy shower? Although in this weather that's probably the last thing you want, but try I'd try a little steam to help soften any mucous that might be further restricting her airways.

[Trifon]

Sorry I can't offer anything other than to use a vaporiser but did want to send some

and HUGS for you.

[carmel]

Cherie

From what I understand, the stenotic nares operation works really well, I haven't had to go that way for Bella, hope like hell that I never have to, I've spent enough on corneal grafts on her eye, but she has small nostrils and also has the herpes virus and I dread the flare ups that happen. I didn't even realise until recently (she's only 18 months old) that the simplest of things can trigger it.

I know it is more medication, but is worth talking to your vet or a opthamologist specialist about any of the antiviral drugs for a short time when she flares with herpes. It doesn't kill the herpes off totally just supresses it so that you can hit any infections on the head, I use the anti viral drug and a short course of antibiotics when I think things at home may stress her or if I have to take her to the vets or there are people coming to the house, particularly with the problems that she's had with her eyes and what they think the herpes causes there (with the flat faced breeds).

I know that it sounds like a lot of medication but I 'm working on the theory (with my vets and specialists okay) that if I hit the problem on the head quickly I won't get the major problems in the future.

Unfortunately, 90% of the cat population has herpes and it is easily passed from cat to cat, even queen to kitten which is one theory that I have had from the specialist that saw Bella and the virus here in Australia in her opinion is far more virulent that that in the UK and persians get it doubly hard as there are a lot of cats out there that have very small noses and nostrils.

Carmel

[Avalon]

Have you had a chance to look at the HAMPL site? I gave the link in the other thread you posted, but just in case, here it is again. The products are very reasonably priced, last ages and they can't do any harm. In Willow they make a huge difference and she responds almost straight away. They will send you the bottle in the mail. Definitely worth a try!!

http://www.holistica...ose-issues.html

I sent and email requst yesterday evening and will wait to see what they advice in the way of other therapies etc. Will keep posted. she seems a bit better this morning with the bisolvin and we just hve to stop her from running like a loon as thats when she gets blocked poor luv I dont want to stop her playing as its a pivitol part of being a cat

[Avalon]

Mega & Big s for Beautiful Phoenix, Yourself & Matt

John

John Thanks muchly she is our worrisome child LOL but so loving I dont think its ever easy with a rescue considering her background but we perservere
Hugs to you PS hows the heat in SA ??
Cherie

from here too! It is just awful when we can't seem to make our little ones better. Does it help at all taking her into the bathroom with you when you have a hot steamy shower? Although in this weather that's probably the last thing you want, but try I'd try a little steam to help soften any mucous that might be further restricting her airways.

Taya, we have tried that but it doesnt help her nostrils are so small you can hardly see them LOL i know i shouldnt laugh but my work colleague had to as where they were smooshy face kids I love them but gee they have issues.

Cherie

From what I understand, the stenotic nares operation works really well, I haven't had to go that way for Bella, hope like hell that I never have to, I've spent enough on corneal grafts on her eye, but she has small nostrils and also has the herpes virus and I dread the flare ups that happen. I didn't even realise until recently (she's only 18 months old) that the simplest of things can trigger it.

I know it is more medication, but is worth talking to your vet or a opthamologist specialist about any of the antiviral drugs for a short time when she flares with herpes. It doesn't kill the herpes off totally just supresses it so that you can hit any infections on the head, I use the anti viral drug and a short course of antibiotics when I think things at home may stress her or if I have to take her to the vets or there are people coming to the house, particularly with the problems that she's had with her eyes and what they think the herpes causes there (with the flat faced breeds).

I know that it sounds like a lot of medication but I 'm working on the theory (with my vets and specialists okay) that if I hit the problem on the head quickly I won't get the major problems in the future.

Unfortunately, 90% of the cat population has herpes and it is easily passed from cat to cat, even queen to kitten which is one theory that I have had from the specialist that saw Bella and the virus here in Australia in her opinion is far more virulent that that in the UK and persians get it doubly hard as there are a lot of cats out there that have very small noses and nostrils.

Carmel

Carmel you not wrong all my persians have had nose issues although Tiffany not so much I have never had a severly peke faced persian so its all new to me. I have gotten more cavulux from the vets yesterday and still using bisolvin, and begged the vet for more than 5 days which is not enoguh course it just starts working and then wammy course of meds is over, so 3 to 4 weeks kick the hell out of it or atleast knock on the head and combined the the holisitic treatments and her op in jan fingers crossed it will ease a bit, weather has been up and down cold at night warm during the day and our bedroom is the coolest place in the house and she sleeps under the bed which we cannot stop as the bed is a high off the ground and slatted and we dont want to keep her out because she loves jumping on the bed in the morning for cuddles and licks lol. We seriously want to nip it in the bud before Horrie arrives as she may be a bit peeved and stressed with a new baby we wont but she will.

will let you all know how I get along

Thanks your all fantastic.
Cherie

[kittycoo]

I was going to suggest HAMPL as well, but see that you have contacted them and waiting for a reply. I can't recommend them enough. If anyone can help it is Diana at Hampl she is absolutely amazing and such a calming soul . Make sure you give them as much detail about history , past medications etc as you can. They have helped me enormously with Samson and I do believe their products work.
They are usually very prompt with their reply and when I order a product it usually arrives the next day ( from WA) which is great when you are desperate to start therapy ASAP.
They are great with following up progress and you can ask their advice any time.

Good luck and sending you lots of

Hugs,
Carmen xx

[suesabys]

My suggestion is to get your vet to refer you to a specialist like SARC here in Melbourne that specialises in this Cardioc/Respitory area.....

What state are you in.

Cheers,


Sue